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Post by Courelli on Jul 15, 2017 2:57:21 GMT
Hey guys,
Let's have a discussion about which Presidents should be considered the best, and why - and why some Presidents, even though remembered by everyone, should never (ever) be included on a list of good Presidents.
For non-Americans, this could serve as a history lesson. I would guess you aren't taught in school the names of any American Presidents, except the few who decided (for no good reason) to break away from their rightful European rulers :)
So, please, feel free to share your opinion. Also, in fairness to the scientific approach, it would not hurt if any claims would be accompanied by a reliable source.
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Post by New Ireland and Wales on Jul 22, 2017 0:00:28 GMT
I'll just say who my favorite Presidents are: George Washington, FDR, John F. Kennedy, LBJ, Eisenhower, Clinton, Obama. However, on the idea of if they belong in the top 10 of Presidents not all would go there Washington and FDR would and maybe Clinton and as much as I love Obama I'm not too sure if he would go in the top 10.
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Post by Freeland Newworldia on Jul 22, 2017 20:06:22 GMT
Great, but with a few big mistakes
Franklin D. Roosevelt
John F. Kennedy
Barack Obama
Very good, but with big mistakes or values I disagree with
Harry S. Truman
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Lyndon B. Johnson
Bill Clinton
Good, but either had slightly backwards ideals or didn't do much
Abraham Lincoln
Chester A. Arthur
Benjamin Harrison
Theodore Roosevelt
Jimmy Carter
Good for their times, but had ideals now seen as very backwards
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Woodrow Wilson
Meh, either a mixed legacy or they did little
John Adams
James Madison
James Monroe
John Quincy Adams
William Henry Harrison
John Tyler
Zachary Taylor
Ulysses S. Grant
James A. Garfield
William McKinley
William Howard Taft
Calvin Coolidge
Gerald Ford
George H. W. Bush
Bad, but with a few redeeming qualities or didn't do very much
Andrew Jackson
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Millard Fillmore
Franklin Pierce
James Buchanan
Andrew Johnson
Rutherford B. Hayes
Warren G. Harding
Herbert Hoover
Richard Nixon
Ronald Reagan
George W. Bush
Donald Trump
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Post by Odd Republic on Jul 22, 2017 21:20:02 GMT
Freeland Newworldia, with all due respect, I don't think there are any redeeming qualities to Donald Trump.
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Post by Freeland on Jul 25, 2017 18:30:34 GMT
Freeland Newworldia, with all due respect, I don't think there are any redeeming qualities to Donald Trump. Although I am strongly against him because many of his actions (especially regarding refugees and the environment), I have to disagree. He is in support of helping veterans, even though he most likely supports different methods of help than I. Although he is not a huge ally of LBG people, he has so far respected the Supreme Court's decision that helped them. His views on abortion are not completely out of whack with mine (even though I don't identify with the pro-life camp). Also, I agree with him that the mainstream media and party establishment on the left is not that good (although he is part of the establishment and mainstream media on the right that is worse). Finally, he is mostly in support of entrepreneuers and space exploration, which are common sense things to support. |
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